Isidro and Moses, the retirees who predicted the last crisis: "Young people do nothing more than waste and then they don't have ... What will they have?"

Isidro and Moses, the retirees who predicted the last crisis: “Young people do nothing more than waste and then they don’t have … What will they have?”

In recent years, much of the so -called “Crystal Generation” has been discussed. A term that is used to refer especially to those born after 2000, which is conceived as more sensitive and with difficulties to face difficult situations. Of these, many also point out that they do not know the culture of sacrifice, and that they are nonconformists. A behavior that, for older people, has been perceiving for some time.

This was made clear about Isidro Ciriano and Moses ‘Casinadie’, two retirees from a town of Soria who jumped to fame in 2012 after a conversation of both predicting the 2008 crisis was published. In a reflection on the past and the present, both hired the hard lives that led to young people with the current comforts.

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They also expressed concern about the waste of youth and lack of conformism, at the same time that criticized the economic system based on indebtedness and the lack of sensible personal financial management. Under these premises, they led to predict that that was “to end very badly.” And so it was.

“I started from Pastor’s kid, a bad life than milk”

Although the conversation was published in 2012, by journalists Olga Latorre and Juan Zarza, since it originally was part of a documentary that finally did not see the light, this debate between the two retirees really took place in 2007. A year before the crisis broke out.

Both, Isidro and Moses, were from Valdegeña, a small town in Soria, and began explaining their childhood and youth: “Before the school it did not go. It is not like now, that one 20 or 30 years cascades studying. Before nothing, as soon as one skip Nothing.

“I do not have any good memory, all bad at that time. Now is when I am better and we are alone. Young people have left the town and we have fallen the old ones,” added Moses, to further reflect the crudeness of those years that they had to live, also regretting the depopulation that the interior peoples already ravaged: “This is for the wolves.”

“I charge little pension, but I am crazy. I have now won in a month what I have not won before my life”

In that reflection, Moses expressed that “now you live well, what happens is that people do not conform. I live better than ever because before it was a martyrdom. That was not living, but today you live a lot. And that I charge little pension, but I am crazy happy. I have now won in a month what I have not won before in my whole life. And I charge 80,000 pesetas, which I did not earn in a lifetime working.

On the contrary, Isidro pointed out that the youth “in a month are spent”, stating that they have no savings culture or give value to what is achieved. “The past past, which is here, cost 80,000 pesetas. All the town to pay it and took 50 years. A ‘cubalibre’ is already worth 700 pesetas. But my man sir, then get a drink of water and 700 pesetas that have been saved. If that there is no right to pay 700 pesetas. If it is worth half loin 700 pesetas and with half a loin you eat half a week. The lack of savings of young people.

“Young people do nothing more than to waste and then they don’t have, what are they going to have? If young people ask for 40 million for a floor and they believe that those 40 million leave the cap. And then, as they do not pay, to the embargo. And this will end badly, this will end but very badly,” he advanced in these terms, in what was considered a prediction of the crisis of 2008 that ended up arriving a year later.

“If I don’t have it, I don’t buy it, I’m without him”

In line with the above, this couple of retirees counted, for example, workers who were working in the town carried some ‘cochazos’ that had been bought through loans, because they did not have money to buy them in cash, so they should be paying them for several years. “I tell you the truth, I do not buy it, I am without him,” Moses replied.

Then, Isidro explains that there was one in the town who presumed to have a son who was studying to be an economist, a profession he considered that he did not need to study: “It is not necessary. The man who wins five hard who spends one spent. That’s. In this line, he reiterated that “it is not necessary to be an economist” because “the economy has to come for oneself.” “Win five and spend one. This is the true economy,” he said. A conversation that, then, was very applauded throughout the citizens.